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PostPosted: Feb 6th, '13, 12:13 
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Ok so i was staring at this setup for weeks and the turbulence of water i'm getting in the tank from the growbed auto siphon draining is going to make a big mess of the fish tank. So I need to figure out how to drain the grown bed in such a way where its not going to destroy the fish tank. Any suggestions?

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How am i going to fill up a 50 gal grow bed without completely draining my 55 gal fish tank?

I have the fish tank on the bottom
should i move the sump so its level to the grow bed (above the fish tank)


Pull the bell off the syphon and run timed flood and drain with a standard power point timer going to your pump. This should create a more steady flow and avoid the "rush" of water from the syphon.

To fill a growbed (which will hold about 40% of it volume in water once media is added) with a tank of comparable size in a flood and drain system requires a sump larger than the growbed water capacity. People usually go: sump-(via pump)->fishtank-(via gravity)->growbed->(via gravity)->sump

If you can not have your fishtank level with your growbed, and above your sump height, I suggest you put the sump at the same level as your fishtank and use a no-holes-overflow or water bridge to join them (or better yet, a pipe through the wall of both)

If your system can not be set up either way, get rid of the sump, switch to constant flood by blocking your standpipe base holes, and aerate well enough to ensure oxygen rich water reaches the plant roots.


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PostPosted: Feb 6th, '13, 12:31 
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I just looked at the video.

If you want a constant height in your fish tank, you probably want to go

sump-(via pump)->growbed-(via gravity)->fishtank-(via no-holes-overflow)->sump

Note that my two suggestions with NHO or water bridge are a point of possible failure


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thanks doc that is great information!

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I love you idea Dr. Luke. I'm topping off with hard water from a well (high PH) about 3 gallons a week. I went down to the river and got a boat load of river rock, it turns out the there was quite alot of clam shells that came with it. Will clam shells help buffer? I believe its made up of calcium carbonate.

Observation:

When I did the 1 week updated video (shown below) I noticed the plants started turning yellow. That was 2 days ago, I woke up today and noticed the plants started turning a deep green. So I'm guessing this is the natural ammonia/nitrite balance. I was wondering if anyone has the same thing going on? Also, i have algae growing on my FT walls but recently died when the plants started turning yellow and started growing again when the plants started turning green. Will this give me an algae problem in the GB???

I think thats all for now enjoy the video

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Here is a Macro update after 4 days, as you can see the plants are now cycling from yellow to green. The deepest green i have seen yet. I will post my water drain and fill times at a later date.


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Here you can see new sprouts forming, (See Picture 1)

The Beefsteak Tomato Plants growing around the fill, I started the plants by just dropping the seeds into the hydrostone and shaking the top of the hydronstone gently to drop the plants deeper into the hydrostone where moisture is present... (See Picture 2)

The Chadwick was started in peat, I found this to be harder for the gardener has to regulate moisture otherwise the wicking effect is too great if burried into the hydrostone media.


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Surrounding The Fill - Beefsteak Tomatoes

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I'm not getting the hits i'd hoped perhaps my title should be changed, how do i do that?

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The Vegetation In The Growbed

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I'm hearing alot about fish feed. Protien levels ect ect......

9 Goldfish
1 Suckerfish

Currently I'm using:

---Omega Small pellets

Ingredients:

Whole Salmon, Halibut, Black Cod, Whole Herring, Seafood mix (Including Krill, Rockfish, Shrimp, Squid, Clams and Octopus), Wheat Flour, Wheat Gluten, Soy Flour, Fresh Kelp, Lecithin, Astraxanthin, L-ascorbyl-2-pophosphate (Vitamin C) Natural and Artificial Colors, Vitamins A, D, E, K3, B1, B2, B6, B12, Niacin, Pantothenic Acid, Folic Acid, Biotin, Inositol, Ethoxyquin and Naturox (Natural mixed to tocopherols and Rosemary Extract) as Antioxidants.

Guaranteed Analysis: Min. Crude Protein (45%), Min. Crude Fat (11%), Max. Crude Fiber (2%), Max. Moisture (8.5%), Max. Ash (8%).


---Freeze dried shrimp/Krill


What do you think? Can you direct me to some feed sites so i can do some research?

NOTE: I'm making the move to get away from GLUTENS and SOY


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PH is @ 8.2, Ammonia .25 , Nitrites .25, and Nitrates 80ppm

I think the PH is putting me into a nute lock, any ideas? With over 600 views i'm sure someone has some good info.

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dose with some maxicrop with iron..the first liter i bought lasted for a year and was only around 10 bucks..i got it from amazon, but since found a local hydroponics shop that carries it - i used 1 capful for 4 growbeds - each growbed was a half barrel.. it did stain the water for a few days, but no worries
your ph will drop on it's own over time, i'd leave it.. i used maxicrop with iron 1x per month for the first 6 months on my system, when the ph started to drop pretty dramatically, i did buffer it back up to about 7.2-7.4 with shell grit then..

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