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 Post subject: Re: BSF composter
PostPosted: Aug 8th, '15, 15:35 
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Unfortunately we had one bag of fish food at the bottom of the chest fridge which was mouldy, so we had to feed it to the black soldier flies, i put in 2kg of 5mm pellets and they were gone the next day. Hungry things, they also cleaned a whole sheep head in 4 days, i gonna take a picture of the Barra frame later today and the day after. They don't even leave bones, all gone including the fish head after around 4days. Lots of protein and calcium for the chickens/quail.

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Wow, they cleaned a whole sheep head! Did they just leave the skull?

Out of interest what are the min/max temps where you are at the moment?


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I've been looking into this for my chickens as well as the fish in my aquaponics system. I'll bet the ducks would probably benefit from this too.


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Hey bender

The composter only gets morning sun, climate sub tropical, dry season nights down to 9 degrees c, and days around 32 degrees max. Wet season highs up to 35 degrees and 100% humidity. I was thinking about a small fan on a solar panel to move the air inside a little bit too keep it drier inside.

Rhuebott5947, our chickens go nuts when they see the larvae, but the fish are not interested, but they are also not interested in live bait, squid, scallops, mullets etc. I think it's trained and it works when you start earlier in their life, they are only used to their pellets.

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Thanks Gwydion. Jealous you can breed BSF all year round. I only have about a 6 month breeding season then they are dormant during the cooler months


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Maybe if you insulate the composter, mine stays quite warm even during cold nights, must be all the heat they produce. There are tens of thousands in there i guess.

Back to the sheep head, yes they ate everything including the fur and only the bone was left, i even chuck the fish scales in and they are gone. I haven't found anything they don't eat. Chicken carcasses are gone including bones. The only thing left from lemon and orange peel is the little sticker when i forget to peel it off.

You better don't fall into the bin while working on it. lol

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Hey bender

The composter only gets morning sun, climate sub tropical, dry season nights down to 9 degrees c, and days around 32 degrees max. Wet season highs up to 35 degrees and 100% humidity. I was thinking about a small fan on a solar panel to move the air inside a little bit too keep it drier inside.

Rhuebott5947, our chickens go nuts when they see the larvae, but the fish are not interested, but they are also not interested in live bait, squid, scallops, mullets etc. I think it's trained and it works when you start earlier in their life, they are only used to their pellets.


Gwydion the Bream I have in my Poolponics go after insects all the time but yea that is because that is how we started them. The girls love to take small nets and catch crickets to feed them. That and When I introduced fish to the pool We had a bunch of water bugs swimming around. I really only added the fish at first as a way to save the goldfish from my Aquaponics system that failed and to prevent mosquitoes from breeding in the pool. It has slowly evolved into a Project.


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This morning we had around 800 larvae but only 130 were black, the rest went back into the composter to mature.

That happens a lot when the contents become too moist after adding fish or meat.

I also just installed an upgrade because i had too many escapees, they were crawling up the walls and squeezed through the gap between tub and lid. I just siliconed some flashing aluminum to the brim of the tub and bent it down. So whenever the larvae crawl up the wall and reach the overhang they drop back into the tub.

We also get around 1 liter of bsf tea per week depending on the moisture content of the scraps.

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Maybe if you insulate the composter, mine stays quite warm even during cold nights, must be all the heat they produce. There are tens of thousands in there i guess.

Back to the sheep head, yes they ate everything including the fur and only the bone was left, i even chuck the fish scales in and they are gone. I haven't found anything they don't eat. Chicken carcasses are gone including bones. The only thing left from lemon and orange peel is the little sticker when i forget to peel it off.

You better don't fall into the bin while working on it. lol


That's pretty insane with the sheep head. Amazing how they are so efficient in converting our waste products into a useful stock feed.

True re don't stand still too long or fall in!


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@Gwydion - Quick question, for the benefit of others such as myself that has not heard of or seen a BSF composter in action, do you mind giving a quick summary on what it is and what is harvested from it?

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Just have a quick look on the first page, i think everything is covered in word and picture.

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@Gwydion - Hi, thanks for the fast reply. Sorry if i missed it, but i was wondering if there is other harvest from the composter other then the larvae as a food supplement for fish/chooks? For example is there any fertilizer property in the bsf tea/digested compost?

As well as what do you do with what is accumulated in the bin that had been broken down over time to prevent it from over filling?

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Hello curious

There is a drain in one corner and we get roughly a liter of bsf tea per week, depending on moisture content of the scraps, it will be a bit more in the wet season with higher humidity i hope.

For the leftovers, i put at least 5 fish frames, numerous chicken carcasses, several kg of mouldy fish food and 4 months of kitchen scraps in it, food items past the due date, you name it and i can still see the coconut fibre in the bottom and there is basically no accumulation of soil at all.

I haven't done it long enough to say how long i can go with that one bin, but couple of years is my guess. Will be hard to get out any of the soil layer because when i lift up bits of the coconut fibre it's all larvae inn between in various sizes.

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Just to bump this again.

Whats the advantages of this system to a worm farm?

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You get larvae out of it which you can feed to fish or poultry, they are very high in protein. And you can chuck nearly everything in from poultry bones to fish frames, even onions are ok, things worms would get upset with.

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