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PostPosted: May 17th, '15, 17:22 
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I hope this is understandable,
installed a swirl filter 3 weeks ago with a tap on the bottom to remove solids and waste etc..
Made up an aeration tank yesterday morning and put some clay pellets, cut drinking straws, small plastic cotton reels, and just generally anything that bacteria can hang on to and then flushed the swirl filters out and poured it into the aeration tank. I took a test of Ammonia and Nitrates while doing that, Ammonia was off the chart as expected with nil Nitrates......
This morning (24hrs later.) I took another Ammonia and Nitrate test,

To my amazement, Ammonia was down to a nice 0.25 and Nitrates off the chart with a deep crimson..

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Is this a normal turn around time for this to happen or should it convert quicker or slower.? TOTALLY AMAZED THAT I HAD A PLAN TO GET MORE NITRATES AND BUGGER ME! IT WORKED OUT BETTER THAN EXPECTED.


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PostPosted: May 21st, '15, 08:05 
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Whilst I am not the font of knowledge, I would simply add FT water to the concentrated muck, and add AIR.. lots of air..

I have experimented with spent worm castings.. lovely smooth gluggy stuff..
Tip in a TALL barrel, add FT water and let it boil with air..
I end up with a magically clear and dark tea of nutrient solution.. it took about a month for the BioFloc to die down and it took weeks to start - properly..

And answering the real question.. no I can't see it happening overnight..
Someone might suggest a reason for what you read, but my thought is that the original ammonia had dropped, but more would come from breaking down of the solids..

I would have guessed that it might take you a week.. minimum .. others will confirm.. :wave:

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thanks for that BuiDoi,
I also thought it would also take some time to convert..
I redid my tests 3 times yesterday to be sure, initial tests ammonia 2ppm nitrates 20-40ppm,
same thing occurred 24hrs later------ 0.25-0.50ppm ammonia, 160ppm++ nitrates..
Worm tea is a lot easier to get and less hassle..
That's next on the agenda, a good worm farm..


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And what of the NITRITES.. they are the ones to watch...
Bottom line... if only considering Ammonia. And Nitrates, then you are only seeing half of the issue..

I happen to be getting to your thinking very fast.. fish and AP are a pain..
You are forever attempting to find a compromise between what is best for the fish and for the plants ..

My near set-in-concrete plan is to split the two processes so I can do what the whole show is meant to do.. grow plants well..

Eg.. I just bought some Blueberry shrubs. They ask for a Ph of 5.5... :oops:

No... I want to be able to add what I want, and spray what I want, when I want.. I can't help thinking that too jig a deal has been made about AP being a seamless biological process for growing fish and plants..
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Hi BuiDoi,
I love AP's. If I sat back and did nothing I probably wouldn't enjoy it as much..just a bit frustrating at the moment trying to keep Nitrates up to 3 big GB's full of plants.
Ive had my system running since Christmas and have never been able to get any readings of nitrite, that must happen almost instantly from ammonia to nitrate.
my son however has a couple of systems running with trout and always seem to have high Nitrite issues..


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