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Chappo
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Post subject: Re: Aquaponics in fishponds - UPDATE Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:16 pm |
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Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:57 am Posts: 2214 Location: Australia Sydney Gender: Are you human?: yes Location: Gods own country,Sydney South
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Hi cris , Sorry thing didn't work out good , but a lesson learnt has value. Yes, will need to filter the water and flow it though beds that the foam sits on top.
I know there is not a lot of money in the Philippines , so is best that some sort of filter be made from what is cheaply available there. I am sure that coconut coir ,, the hairy stuff on the outside of coconuts is cheap or maybe free there ,, it could be used to make a reasonable filter. I'll take a look around the internet and see what I can find. Cheers.
PO.S believe me , with the help ogf the people on this forum you will find a way to grow vegetables.
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crisgaston
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Post subject: Re: Aquaponics in fishponds - UPDATE Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:38 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:47 pm Posts: 60 Gender: Location: Silay City, Philippines
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Thanks Chappo. No harm done really. Now I know where I am and I just need to know how to get to where I want to be. Ha..ha... I am not sure about the coconut coir, It's organic, dusty and may cause problems. I am thinking of old fish nets and gravel which are readily available. Maybe, the gravel bed F&D will be a better option than deep flow rafts. The bigger problem, I think, is how to filter the muddy suspended solids. Thanks again Chappo.
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jdphish
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Post subject: Re: Aquaponics in fishponds - UPDATE Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:27 pm |
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Joined: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:49 pm Posts: 250 Location: Mississippi Gender: Are you human?: yes Location: Mississippi
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Cris, have you considered a non pressurized in ground sand or gravel filter or maybe a series, gravity fed? Could try using them as grow beds.
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TCLynx
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Post subject: Re: Aquaponics in fishponds - UPDATE Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:35 pm |
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Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:13 am Posts: 6945 Location: central FL Gender: Location: USA, Florida, Tangerine
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F&D beds make good filters (both solids and bio.) Just want to make sure the gravel won't cause pH problems (limestone and marble are usually not a good idea since they tend to buffer to a pH over 8.) Then on the outlet of the gravel bed you could add an extra filter to catch what suspended solids manage to get all the way through the gravel if you wish to then send the water into a DWC section to grow even more veggies before sending the water back to the fish. Just note that the gravel bed if not very big could experience an overload of solids if being fed by a very large amount of fish. Thank you so much for that update!!!!!!  Those pictures are worth lots and we will probably use your experiment to explain to many people why solids and bio-filtration is needed before DWC and NFT plant growing space.
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crisgaston
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Post subject: Re: Aquaponics in fishponds - UPDATE Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:42 am |
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Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:47 pm Posts: 60 Gender: Location: Silay City, Philippines
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Thanks JD and TC. Well, there usually is a couple or even a few feet difference between the pond water level and the top of the dikes making the use of gravity advantageous. A series of multi-level filter --> gravel bed--> DWC makes good sense. The water pH is about 7.5 so I have to use inert river sand and/or gravel. I have also found old fishing nets to be very efficient media for bio-filters. Thanks again.
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jimmy_d_ward
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Post subject: Re: Aquaponics in fishponds - UPDATE Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:03 am |
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Sorry the experiment didn't work out.
Just for my clarification, what do you mean by "hapa" and "RAS"?
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Chappo
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Post subject: Re: Aquaponics in fishponds - UPDATE Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:20 am |
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Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:57 am Posts: 2214 Location: Australia Sydney Gender: Are you human?: yes Location: Gods own country,Sydney South
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A hapa is a net cage that is set up in a pond or even in a river/lake.
Chris ,, for the filter due to large size will probably need a settling chamber, followed by a gravel filter , followed by a fines filter . Fines filter can be those old fishing nets.
Although the area will need to be fairly large , it will not be wasted ,, top of filter water could be used for growing duckweed.
_________________ I call a Spade a Spade,,,you can turn it upside down and paint itred but it's still a Spade.
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Ian
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Post subject: Re: Aquaponics in fishponds - UPDATE Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:21 am |
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Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:22 am Posts: 370 Location: Mount Crosby (Brisbane) QLD Gender: Are you human?: mostly Location: Mount Crosby QLD
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Quote: and "RAS"? Recirculating Aquaculture System
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crisgaston
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Post subject: Re: Aquaponics in fishponds - UPDATE Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:52 am |
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Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:47 pm Posts: 60 Gender: Location: Silay City, Philippines
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Oh, sorry Jimmy. Yes, hapas are net enclosures we use to contain fish within large ponds. I used them for the experiment to keep the fish out and away from the plant roots. The RAS (as correctly defined by Ian) I have consists of fishtank, solids settling tank, filters, sump and a DWC for the veggies. You got another plus plus point there, Chappo. I will seriously consider a settling chamber (a.k.a. clarifier) and duckweeds. Thanks.
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