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PostPosted: Sep 5th, '11, 02:47 
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Have been working on this area for awhile. Starting with the raised beds on the lower part, a little wider than wheelchair width between the rows. No idea how to get a dozer here to get these stumps out, so I used the bucket tractor. Sometimes it takes me a few days to work on the dirt surrounding a stump. My balance isn't what it used to be, but I can still work on it a little at a time.

The dirt area in the middle is where two or three dirt beds will be. The corn and sunflower beds that are further up will be removed and incorporated into other dirt beds. This makes room for one of my tanks and quite a few blue barrels. Expanding from there, another tank and some more blue barrels will complete the materials I have in stock now.
These two tanks and sets of blue barrels will run as separate systems. Different types of fish, and different types of plants in each set. Eventually, I'll move the existing system over there and incorporate it into the others.

Sometime I'll find a way to put some type of shelter over the systems so they can be protected from the cold weather. And it won't be made out of PVC again.

Yeah, lots of plans. It'll take a few years since there is limited energy, strength, and of course, money. But that is what makes this fun.

Sure wish I could get ahold of a BYAP tank over here. I can get the pretty blue barrels, but have a hard time finding a tank over 300 gallons. Might just have to make a tank out of plwood and liner.
Pics will be updated as the project goes.

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Here are some pics of the existing raised beds, both wooden and on the ground. Broccoli starts were planted from seed in my office area and watered every day (almost) with AP water from the existing system.

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And some pics of the dirt raised beds with sweet potatoes going great guns and carrots (just started)
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And earlier in the season - watermelon and squash in the foreground
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Plan on putting piping under the ground to the beds so we can water them with AP water. Not sure how to do this yet, but have some time to think about it and work on it.

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whats the one with the blue flower?

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The violet colored flowers are some morning glories that decided they wanted to gather in all the bees in the neighborhood to help pollinate my cucumber, watermelon, squash, and sweet potato vines.
Should have seen all the bees early in the morning doing their pollination thing. But shouldn't have let the morning glories stay so long. They entangled themselves around the watermelon and cucumber vines. Kinda hard to know where one stops and the other starts.

The following pics are sweet potato flowers. Have already dug up some of the potato crop and am letting them cure. Reckon they are supposed to rest for a few weeks before you eat them to let the starches turn into sugars - hence the sweetness.

Probably will cook them in a few days. Going to have a lot of them by the looks of things. Some folks eat the leaves. I've tried them but the are not my cup of tea really. Kids like to eat them right off the vine. Don't know if the flowers can be eaten or not.

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Ahhh, i see

nice flowers on the sweet potato too, mine have never flowered but ive had a few tubers good tip on leaving them for a few weeks ill have to try that

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Would like to have more dirt raised beds fed with water from the fish tank. Figure a T just after the pump outlet with one pipe heading to the gravel beds, one pipe heading to the dirt raised beds. Turn the pipe to the dirt beds on in the evening for an hour or so, or whenever I remember to :oops: Then remembering to turn it off again. Which is where one of these comes in handy.
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The fish tank(s) can be topped up by a float switch run off the underground pressure pipe. The pipe is currently running to the house and back pastures, so it's just a matter of trenching over to the fish tank area. Already have a 4" chase under the driveway that protects a water hose. This hose is what I currently use to water the dirt garden. Would be nice to have water pipe underground right to where I need it, eh.

Have been working on the dirt raised bed area, using good compost dirt and leaves. Used the bucket tractor to make a hole in the center of the bed area...

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Then scrounged around for some leaves and hay to put in the center so they could rot down during the winter months, making good loamy dirt.

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Again, used the bucket tractor to mix both sides in with the leaf/hay mixture, then watered it real well. No pics of that, cause it was dark by the time I finished. Maybe later.

So, in thinking that I will be using the water out of the fish tank on a semi regular basis, I need to do some tests to see what the water temp will be. Don't want to freeze the fish with that well water during the hot months of summer. Since I'll go with Catfish (warm water species) in the spring, I need to make sure they won't die off from the water fluctuating so much. Warm/hot water returning from the gravel grow beds during the day, cold water from the well in the evenings after I water the dirt beds.
Hhhhmmm interesting.
Thoughts anyone?

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I have a plan, a master plan, of what it should look like in a year or so.

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What about a tank using steel mesh and pond liner? I've always thought they were a pretty cool idea, like the ones synaptoman did..

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for ideas on making wooden/Ply/Liner tanks go to http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthrea ... rd-edition.

A lot of 'Ideas Here..
Also under Pond Construction there are also ideas and methods of Making timber/liner thanks Just can't find them..

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what are the problems associated with using dams with aquaponics? if you cant source a big tank why dont you just dig a big hole?

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what are the problems associated with using dams with aquaponics? if you cant source a big tank why dont you just dig a big hole?


I would reckon it could be summed up in one word - Control.
Possibilities of ground water leaching bad bacteria into the system or chemicals from neighboring land leaching into the ground water. Since water is the lifeblood of the system, you would want to keep it clean and keep out any possible source of contamination. It wouldn't be a problem if the dug hole had a liner. Then it would be just a big, custom made fish tank. Since i have zero training and little experience, that is just my opinion. Hopefully someone will chime in and give a more professional/more experienced opinion.

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Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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I used cattle panels, a tarp, some 1/4" blue board insulation and a chunk of pond liner to make my big tank. Worst part about it was carefully folding the liner. Hardest part was pushing the 3" pipe through the uniseal in such a situation.
I would recommend getting some steel banding to secure the cattle panels in the round shape. My big system thread has some pictures somewhere.

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TC, did you bury it or does it sit on top of the ground?

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Here is the link to where that tank construction is in my main system thread.
http://backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=2640&start=1185
So you can see it for yourself.

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