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 Post subject: Re: Charlie's system
PostPosted: Jun 22nd, '11, 18:26 
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I like your thinking Jamey :think:

You would still have to have a connecting pipe between the 2 IBC's at the bottom to keep the water levels even because if you had tank A's cycle working say a little bit faster (from fill to drain) eventually the water level would rise over time. It would be hard to match them is what Im trying to say.

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True true, wouldnt have to be in the bottom, in the top as an overflow safety device would be sufficent and much easier :)

Looks good there mate!!!

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Ok so since I ever started my new system I have always had a reading of nitrites, My fish stocking was too large and very threatening. After my first cycle the nitrites dropped to zero but not long after it rose again and has stayed there ever since. My friends here warned me that this is dangerous and will inevitably come to a horrible end. Since then I have reduced my crazy stock level to 40 fish in total, 20 will go in the new system when it is ready, 20 SP, 20 Trout. After I started my expantion I have been fishless cycling the new IBC to get it ready and because I havnt had time to make a new syphon for it I borrowed the original one which in turn made that one a constantly flooded system. Checked my nitrite level tonight and WOW! Nitrites completely gone!!!

I learn something every day with my project and I just wanna say I love this stuff and I cant get enough.

Thankyou BYAP for giving me this inspiration. :notworthy:

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I remember when i got that feeling :)

welcome to level 2 my freind :)

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Some new pics, finally got the chance to get some plants in the new GB and the other is ticking along nicely. Thought Id fish some trout out to see how they are looking, I havnt got any scales so Im not sure what weight they are at but they are tubby little fellas so Im happy with how they are going.
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They are doing about the same as mine, get them big as soon as you can, then lay off the food so they use up the fat. Especially in an ibc. Fish in a round tank have a lot less fat.

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They are doing about the same as mine, get them big as soon as you can, then lay off the food so they use up the fat. Especially in an ibc. Fish in a round tank have a lot less fat.


Hijack!!

Hey OBO,

Is that cause in a round tank they tend to swim round in circles against the whirlpool, there for using more muscles and working out more then converting feed to muscle rather than fat?

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Will do, cheers OBO. :thumbleft: :thumbleft: :thumbleft: :thumbleft: :thumbleft:

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Scooped the net through this mornin to see how my buddies are going because they didnt do their usual crazy stunts when I threw in a handful of feed. They look fine and went nuts when I took them out of water, took a pic threw them back in and did water test but all is perfect.

I usually introduce the first feed at around 9am but today I tried at about 7am, Im thinking they have developed a schedule and may not have been ready or expecting? Only assumptions but I would expect that fish can adapt a routine? I remember when fishing for mullet years ago, we would go down to the river at the same time for a few days up to a week and throw in bread crumbs to create a routine feeding time for that location and then we could come back down with a cast net and catch in that spot with more ease. I would be surprised if this subject has not already been covered but Id love some feed back.

p.s. In this pic you will see "there is one not like the others", keep finding these little guys in my trout tank. Must be little battlers :lol:


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The "little" fish looks like a Silver Perch...


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Haha yeah it does rupert. Funny enough i found a trout in my silvers tank this morning too :D

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Yea it is Rupe, I separated the species a while back and thought I got them all but now and then I scoop one up, they must be hiding around the pump or something. Found a couple last week about 20mm long, tiny little fella's havnt grown a bit since I got them in december.

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Outbackozzie wrote:
They are doing about the same as mine, get them big as soon as you can, then lay off the food so they use up the fat. Especially in an ibc. Fish in a round tank have a lot less fat.


Why would you suggest this is the way to go OBO? Wouldn't it be more efficient to keep feeding at a reasonably standard rate for best FCR efficiency? And probably better health wise for the fish?

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If we leave the fish (out here) at conservative feed rates, we end up with a whole heap of fish in October, that are on the edge of dying from excess heat. If we feed the hell out of them early, get them to size (around late August), you get a lot more opportunity to eat / sell the fish in a more stable sort of way.

It just heats up too quick out here, to be trying to get fish to size late September, early October. The fish handle the higher temps a hell of a lot better if your not trying to grow them at the same time.

If your happy with 450 to 550 gram fish, then feed at a slow rate (one or two feeds a day), but if you want to get 750 gram+ fish out here, you have to feed as much as they will take, 3 times a day.

Because I want to supply the fish in a more long term way, I need to get them to size early. I dont know about health issues for the fish, they have not complained yet, or started to die of heart disease. Its not as if I grab the fish out of the water and force the pellets down their throats. I just make as much food as they want available.

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I'm more than happy with half a kilo fish... :) I think you'll find that from a from a commercial point of view there's an optimum feed rate and pumping more feed into them decreases the feed conversion ratio so you are basically wasting feed, being less efficient... It just makes me cringe when I see these really obese trout, I'd rather eat a lean healthy looking fish, than a bloated out of proportion fish.. But each to their own.... Guess you guys are different out in Kal... :)

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