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PostPosted: Dec 24th, '12, 23:20 
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Thanks for the info, WHWoz - very useful.

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I have a Laguna Max flo power jet 11000 pump lined up for installation in the puddle some time soon.
Hopefully it will be up to the task.

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So not planning on recirculating any water then :P

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The cat-flap (for the under-sized dogs) has been relocated so, finally, the pool fence was (legally) able to be removed. The difference it has made to the small, paved yard area is quite amazing. As small as it is, it now feels like open space.


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...and another step, Ronmaggi. I have been preparing some half drums for use as grow beds for fruit trees.


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The owner of the 'Puddle' is pleased that some AP hardware is turning up, at last, but not as pleased as she was to see the fence unceremoniously hacked from its attachment points!
The pieces of scrap iron, formerly known as 'the bloody pool fence', are visible over the Princess's shoulder.


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The final decision is yet to be made but there will probably be six half drums installed on the far side of the puddle. This is Phase I, which will also include a radial flow filter (RFF) that I plan to create using the drum in the corner.
Phase II involves setting up an additional two grow beds for vegies that will be IBC reductions of around 350L each.
Initially I plan to pump from the puddle to the RFF and then have the (solids) filtered water flow under gravity to both left and right banks of half drum grow beds. The water will then return to the puddle via the two grow bed drains, once again under gravity. I am concerned that the small drop back into the puddle of the return water will not create much in the way of splash and aeration unless the level of the puddle is kept lower than capacity. (It is down about 15cm at the moment.)
I am also concerned that, unlike dandm's very productive pool, anything that is spilt, dropped or otherwise finds its way onto the pavers will also find its way into the puddle. The first things that spring to mind are wine and dog urine. In fact, the entire paved area is pretty much a catchment for the puddle, which, the more I think about it, is not a good thing.


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It might pay to run some of that continuos concrete garden edging around the puddle, this will keep out any waste liquid you are worried about.

For the grow beds why not just cut the IBC's in half, this would give you close to 500lt of filtration in each bed. The puddle will need maximum filtration.

All looking good, will be very interested in the progress as my next one will be about 8,000 litre fish tank
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I'm watching this one with interest as my next project will be a 50,000 ltr megapuddle.

If I'm not mistaken, aeration can be achieved by the air/water interchange at the water surface so you can aerate simply by moving the pool water around. Would'nt that be achieved by running a stormwater pipe around the barrels and growbeds and returning the water from there back into the pool at an angle. :dontknow:

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I wish I had a pool that I could convert :whistle:

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It might pay to run some of that continuous concrete garden edging around the puddle, this will keep out any waste liquid you are worried about.
I may need something along these lines, ccBear, but hopefully it will be less intrusive and not as conspicuous as concrete - perhaps a plastic strip or a bead of silicon. The paving slabs probably sit on sand so anything other than a big spill may find its way through the gaps and away rather than across the surface of the paving. Slop washing into the puddle during a heavy downpour may then be the biggest issue.

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For the grow beds why not just cut the IBC's in half, this would give you close to 500lt of filtration in each bed.
The grow beds are already cut to approx 650L/350L size. I chose this size partly on the basis of aesthetics but also because the larger ones are destined for my concrete tank system. 350L IBC grow beds will fit neatly alongside the dining room window sill and not overly dominate the access area between the window and the puddle.

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Keep the photos coming this is a interesting system. We do not get the chance to see a pool conversion from start to finish, cheers

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