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Green house yes never herd of a winter garden how does it differ from a green house do you have photos please

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Green house yes never herd of a winter garden how does it differ from a green house do you have photos please

A Winter Garden is a room in the house that is dedicated to grow plants all year long, especialy in the Winter.
In my case, I added a room to the house, like a living room. it has a dirt floor cover with astro turf, artificial grass and along the windows grow beds full of plants. The idea is a 365 garden in a climate that has 5 month frost and snow.


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Brian has a Winter Garden, because his built is part of the house. He steps out of his living room in the middle of winter, snow blowing cold as it can get and he is in his garden. It is amazing how those plants change the environment in your house. It is very rich, especially during the crapy days of winter. My room is never below 70, is bright, especially in the winter with the lower sun, plants growing, rich, good smelling atmosphere.
The idea war born in the late 1700. Them Earls and Lords and Kings started to enjoy all those nice fruits and plants that came from the tropics. But than in central Europe once winter hits all those trees and plants would kick the dust. First frost and they were done. Since those boys and girls did not want to spent the crapy season without their exotic pleasures, they built winter gardens. During the summer their exotic plants would be outside and during the winter they went into the winter garden. Over time they developed into living areas, a living room designed around plants.
The town were I come from, Kassel, used to be the capital of the Lord of Hessia. He had a rather good taste and loved to live well. So the town, still today, even after the devastation of WWII, is famous for its parks, castles, palaces and for what is called the Orangerie. Its a little palace, for his Lordships exotic plants. Orang trees and what so ever. It was designed to be a living room with all those plants in it. A very lovely building, elegant and with the park around it, a gem.
We had some rather wild parties in the Orangerie, in the 70s :D
Its worth googling it.
So if you do not buy plants from a garden place, that are invested with some of the worst pest, like green house white flies, you have a rather lovely room, or garden, 365, to have a beer and enjoy your friends, watch TV or just garden.


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After taking care of the system in the school, I went to the town. The store had a 1000 gallon pump, 74$.
Form active aqua.
Works like a charm. So I got the pipes going. Lower pipe strawberries, need 2 more. Upper pipe the peppers I love so much. To get the system started I bought plants, washed the roots and set them in cups, with clay pepples. The strawberries were rather crapy, but they looked rather good, better in the evening. Lets see what they look in a week or so. I only used the ones that had nice white roots, if they were brownish I trashed them.
Need 2 more to fill the pipe.
Same with the peppers on top.
I plated in the dirt bed below tomatos.

In the blue, I seeded ice berg lettuce. Do not like the stuff, but it germinates fast and helps to keep the system balanced and my ducks love it.


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Fascinating about the Orangerie although I had to look it up, of course.
Is it this one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versailles_Orangerie
Love the greenhouse aquaponics setup. The eerie purple lights give it an alien overtone.

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Thanks Brian.
Here the wiki link to the one in my home town. Heavily influenced by Versailles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orangerie_(Kassel)

Since that one was not good enough a Greenhouse was built in 1822, close to the Palace at the Mountain Park, which is now all part of a World Heritage Monument


http://www.museum-kassel.de/index_navi.php?parent=1314

https://www.google.com/search?q=Kassel+ ... 60&bih=643

They knew how to live, I would say.


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I love this greenhouse, did you build from a set of plans or just come up with the design yourself?
Planning on getting a greenhouse for my garden as soon as I can, but did wonder about building something like this.


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Jonar, it is my design, it had to fit into that place.

I am nearly done with the wood work. I built the door, its a 2 piece affair.
Last wood work will be the trim around the window inside.
The door was a priority, because the rabbits and chip munks were taking over at night and chewed up the plants.
Next will be the to blues.

Its going to be rather stressfull, Euros, Copa, F1, 2 blues and having to work this week end. :D


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Okay, I'm game: 2 blues?

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Okay, I'm game: 2 blues?


As in 2 blue half barrels, that still need to be installed. :D


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Okay, I'm game: 2 blues?


As in 2 blue half barrels, that still need to be installed. :D

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Thanks for the reply on the winter garden
Would love to add one here but I don't think the finance department would aggree :think:
2 Houses ago [before aquaponics ] I built a room on the back of the house
A bit like those conservatory,s in England
But I just had large self watering pots
Normally here in vic you get tomato about xmas I had them ripe first on November
All if these new things I am learning about I hope I live to 100 just so I can use some of them
At the moment I am part way through building a hot house
It will be nat gas heated and the beds also will have there own sola heating set up stay tuned
Theres a few photos on my thread
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F&F, a real pleasure.

As I said today was a tuff day. First I ran the morning shift, than I had to watch a rather interesting F1, than the Euro, Germany played and Mr. Football nailed it and in between I installed the 2 blues and now Copa. I am getting to young for that :D

I started the second blue, I am 2 bags of the clay stuff short. Good side of the dope laws in Colorado, a Hydroponics store actually makes money and has superb prices. A 40 liter bag is 23 US Green. So number 3 has to wait till tomorrow.
I am going to grow cucumbers in #2.

I decided to make a serious effort to heat the green house in the winter. I still have a good sized hot water radiator, with a blower. I will hook it up to the hot water heating system for the house.


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Well, fire season has arrived. It is about 10 miles from here, on the other side of the lake, as it looks.
Its growing rather fast. Its West from the farm, wind is west at 5 miles. Lots of Pinon and Juniper and Scrub Oak in that area. Burns extremely hot.


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