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PostPosted: Jun 19th, '16, 07:38 
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I populated the green house. Top pipe 11 different peppers, from Bells to as hot as it goes. 9 plants are bought, 2 cups are seeded.
Bottom pipe strawberries.
Left blue, salad, center tomatoes, right 6" cucumbers.
Left dirt bed, under the plastic trays, seeded, 3 different kind of radish and large cucumbers.
Right dirt bed, wiking bed, Strawberries, seeded under the trays, onion and herbs.

I have started to dismantle the system in the wintergarden. I had one orange tree that was still alive but struggling and one vine3/4 dead. I pulled those and potted them. they are outside far away. Maybe they make it.


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PostPosted: Jun 19th, '16, 08:50 
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Seriously, this cant be healthy.
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These are the fun times planting out looking forward to finishing mine

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They jumped on that fire with all they had. 3 slurries and a superb ground troop.
It was a red flag day and they were ready. By nightfall they had it under control.
But it is a warning for all of us living here. Fire season is here and we better get ready for it.
Despite the god snow winter we are very, very dry, to dry to feel good.


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PostPosted: Jun 19th, '16, 21:27 
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Yes, fire season is here. We'll need to start another summertime thinning project. Perhaps expand the fire break around the 150 acre forest. Yikes I feel old. Your system looks spectacular!
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Thanks Brian.

Yes its time, again, to think about the wild fires and prepare for them. It gets earlier every year. The fire is still smoking.

FF, yes that is fun to get the green stuff stuffed in. Lets see what survives :D

Now I will take all the other plants out of the winter garden.


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Naturally by switching to the greenhouse system and the wintergarden system dying with its plants, everything had to recycle. Running both system from the same tank parallel made the process go rather fast. This morning Amonia and Nitrite were just through the roof and Nitrate was at 80 and some.
Just did a nother test, Amonia down to .50 from 4.0 and some, Nitrite 0.25 from 5.0 and Nitrate at between 40 and 80.
Buy tomorrow I expect Amonia and Nitrite to be 0. Now I have to figure out how to bring down the PH, big problem with our water, its tap 8.2.


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I installed solar power attic fan in the roof exhaust. Works very nice an very quiet. I just have to mount the panel some where outside on the house. It still runs the fan during heavy clouding, as I could observe during a brief thunder storm


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Sweet fan, have you got specs or a link for us? I'm unsure what you mean by running the two systems parallel. I hadn't realized the Winter Garden was AP as well?? Or did you move some dirt planted plants to you new system?

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The winter garden has an aquaponics system, that's were the fish tank is. Since the green house is attached to the WG all it needed was some plumbing. Than I ran both systems out of the same FT till the new system had cycled. Than I was able to turn of the system in the WG and remove all the infested plants. Additionally I removed all the dirt plants that were infested. Now I have to wait and see how successful that is, I would like to keep as many of the healthy plants in the Wintergarden alive.

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"The fan can be found on e-bay, solar powered fan, US ebay." okay thanks
Good luck with the de-infestation too

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The desinfestation of the wintergarden worked rather well. Taking out the food source for the white flies did the trick.
Since winter is approaching rather fast, we had our first snow today and temps will be around 29F, -4 to -5 C tonight and than some for the next 3 nights or so, it was time to restart the growbeds in the wintergarden.

I had grown outside some Cucumbers, they had reached a healthy size, they went into the pots. Cucumbers take the washing rather good and from the uncontrolled jungle I have in the greenhouse take to aquaponics rather well. They already have some Cus going.
Than I seeded the small bed with Cantelope, its an experiment, the bigger one with peppers, bell, banana, and slim jim.
Since the greenhouse and the wintergarden are on the same FT, I will probably have around 6 weeks maybe 8 till it gets to cold and heating it to expensive.
A few nights at mild frosts are manageable but onece we get to the twens and teens at night the aquaponics system will be shut of.
I probably will built a winter special only in the wintergarden, removable.

For the next few nights I will use a propane infared heater in the greenhouse to keep the frost out.
For the winter I will use the dirt section with more hardy stuff, that I can insulate for the nights, that silver coated bubble wrap for the night.
It gets brutally cold in December, January and February, -20 and -30 are normal at night, F and C does not matter at those temps.

I brought my citrus in, oranges.

I have 2 hardy Hibiscus, they can stand up to minus 30 F they stay outside till they have their first good frost cycle, leaves gone etc. than they come in.


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Sweet and making big progress it sounds like. :notworthy: Your setup is elegant and pristine. :notworthy: Thank you Gnoib for these updates.

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Thanks for the kind words.

The little heater did its trick and so the greenhouse stayed frost free. Good to know. We had 29 F.
One other thing, When I pulled all the white fly food out of the winter, I had not closed the door to the greenhouse, duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. So some got in there and felt right at home.
But than that little propane heater in that closed space puts out a lot of CO2. Enough to make my eyes water when I turned it of and that does a number on all oxygen breathing thingies, after 10 hours of that treatment :D .
What a sweet side effect and the plants love CO2 on top of it.

A lesson learned for next year. If the greenhouse will get infect again, out comes the burner. A week or maybe 2 of that treatment, every 2 days and them suckers are dead.

Today was wood splitting day, after work, did 4 cords, its still pretty green stuff, took the trees in July, so rather heavy. It used to be easier.
The small bed with the cantaloupes has its first seed sprouting, the peppers are not showing anything, but I got dirt seeds coming up.
Still got 5 cords of the greener stuff to do, tomorrow, some of the pieces are probably 200 pounds and have to cut them so I can lift them.
5 more, already dried up, beatle kills to go, they are tall, around 90 feet


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I red about this out fit this morning, in a German online news paper.
Very interesting

http://www.ecf-farmsystems.com/en/


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Hi gnoib,

Very nice system you have here!
I haven't read thru it all yet, but looking forward to it! :-)


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