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yeah i also feed arranges strawberries and watermelon they love it especially one white guy

its illegal to feed live food here( i know right lol) so they dont sell it but will look into frozen stuff\

anyway still waiting on the plants to recover the chillies are growing again but still crinkly(not half as bad as before) ill post some pics in a bit

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Take a look around for local animal feed stores/farm stores and they might have some access to commercial fish food. Some of them here will resell it in smaller bags. You can also use whatever food you can find and add the B and B to get some of the things the food doesn't give you. You have options. I would skip the frozen food around here it costs quite a bit.

As a last resort you might contact these guys - http://www.nutreco.com/en/About-us/Nutreco-Worldmap/?map=europe

Should show Skrettings Austrian branch on that page.


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PH is better in the mid/ upper 6s
got cal carbonate75%/ mag carbonate 25% labeled garden calk
put a pinch in for tonigh (250L FT plus 2x 95L constant flood beds- aprox 250l water i guess) will see how thinsg go and probs pull the eggshells soon

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yeah so pH hasnt done much still 6ish even a bit below( have a ph pen inbound so will get accurate results soon)
added about a table spoon of the lime this morn 3 hours late ph is still 6ish meh
waiting for iron
gonna replant some lettuce seeds in the netpots
fish all still alive so far

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Careful with the lime additions.

What kind of lime are you using?

Calcium Hydroxide (Ca(OH)2) (Hydrated lime or Brickie's lime or slaked lime) - Used sparingly and with caution (caustic) to raise pH and add Calcium. Probably adding about 1 tablespoon per 1000L until you figure out what works for your system is a good start. Remember not to change the pH more than .4. Contains other things like magnesium and doesn't add carbonates.


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calcium carbonate is what i have scotty
he 2 chillis most wrinkly are the same type- also closest to the inlet from the tank
the guy who isnt wrinkly at all is furthest from the inlet-right next to the outlet but is a dif verity dunno if thats relevant id guess that species just needs a lot more calcium?

nothing much going on still treating calcium and low ph while waiting for the iron to arrive

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Any way to put the calcium carbonate in a mesh bag under one of the taps so you can remove it if your pH goes too high? You may also find that the pH falls even with the CaCO3 in which case you'll need to get the pH up with something else. If you let the pH go too low the biofilter could crash. This video by Nate Storey might help you -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP1rUMyklyc

If I recall correctly, he runs his pH a bit different than I do but there is more than one way to do things.


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cool yeah was thinking if i should put it in a bag llike the shells

ph is up to the high 6s this morn and the iron arrived

low balled it calculating for a 250l system(even though there is like 350 in mine) and added a teaspoon today

hopefully the lettuce production will be back online soon

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FYI - If this is the type of chelated iron you have.

Fe-DTPA is light sensitive probably best to apply just before dark (about 96 hours for >90% of Fe-DTPA to be destroyed with exposure to light of the wrong wavelength - usually precipitates out and becomes unavailable to the plants). http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/pe ... 13-316.pdf


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i am testing the cal carbonate as a foiler because calcium is so imobile, id like to think there is improvement in the new leaves but they are still a bit wrinkly- i know cal chloride would be better for a foiler but the organic gardener forums suggest using crushed egg shell and letting it sit in the water for like 30 days

so i reason that it could still work and i dont wanna mess around with ph too much- i just got to the point where i knew how much pd down to put into the 10l bucket of weekly top-up water to get ph to 7 then let it drinf down to 6.4 during the week and repeat on sunday

seen as cal is imobile i sprayed the undeside of the leaves of one plant right after lights out
will see how it works

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Careful with the lime additions.

What kind of lime are you using?

Calcium Hydroxide (Ca(OH)2) (Hydrated lime or Brickie's lime or slaked lime) - Used sparingly and with caution (caustic) to raise pH and add Calcium. Probably adding about 1 tablespoon per 1000L until you figure out what works for your system is a good start. Remember not to change the pH more than .4. Contains other things like magnesium and doesn't add carbonates.


+1 on the 1 Tbs per 1000l
FF,in my system i dose with potassium sulphate,calcium hydroxide,magnesium sulphate and FE dpta,this goes in the system daily at evening time,in 6000l i add one tsp pot,one tbs calcium,quarter tsp mag and quarter tsp of fe,I have a neutral PH,doing it this way i get no noticeable change in PH from the calcium.I add everything apart from the calcium in one go into a dosing inlet i added to the inlets of the DWCs,the calcium goes into water and is stirred about and the bigger lumps squished in my fingers,i wait a short while then pour this in the dosing port.
I started doing this daily due to the calcium affecting PH levels when i did it weekly and the short life of the FE in light.

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i think things r finally turning around( i hope)

ph has been ok(i filled a stocking thing with the cal carb and just been dipping it in)

greens seem to be coming back to life- i pulled most of the really crispy ones and just replanted

the cal foiler seems to be helping- the plant i was spraying although looks like one of the fish jizzed all over it has been able to repair the wrinkled leaves i will start treating the other plant less agressivly

i think i may add a half teaspoon of iron tonight

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