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They are so much better than store bought tomatoes. They are not a pretty but we care about taste not good looks.

My strawberries took a hit when I salted for my fish. I only had to do 2 PPT but it was still hard on the strawberries.
The lettuce is growing better since I put in the new filter.
I bought all my conduit and wire to finally run permanent power to the greenhouse.

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Recognizing it's been almost 2 years since the start of your project...

Looks like your ground setup is similar to mine with a lot of clay not too far down. Do you have any recommendations on keeping earth in place once I start digging?

Was considering putting the beds, fish and sump tank all a bit below ground level to help on insulation.

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I used a hammer drill from harbor freight with a chisel bit. This worked very well in clay.

http://www.harborfreight.com/1-18-in-10 ... 61882.html

http://www.harborfreight.com/4-12-in-sd ... 60414.html

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I did not want to make the dirt loose by the foundation.

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I am going to install my NG tankless vent free hot water heater in the closed loop fish tank heater that I have now.
Since it is vent free it will add heat to the greenhouse when it runs. It will also add CO2 to the greenhouse.

The green house is staying above 55F even on the coldest nights but my fish water is getting to cold for my tilapia. If I have a few days that are cloudy I cannot use the sun to warm up the fish water this setup will fix that

I will put in 4 ½ valves and two tees so if the sun is out I will run the closed loop heater the way I do today. Then the sun can heat the water at night or cloudy days I can use the NG hot water heater.
I have bought all my conduit wire unground gas pipe….
I just need to rent a trencher.

Google earth took a new photo on you can see my wife's horses bottom right.

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Lol I asked the guy at the plumbing store for a part for a hot water heater. I don't know why I keep doing the redundant wording on this, being a man of few words I should know better.
I'm uncertain what the NG stands for, but don't gas heaters put out carbon monoxide not carbon dioxide?
Did you get a quadcopter? That is a great photo.

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That photo is from Google earth they update it once or twice a year for us anyway.

Here is the last picture from Google earth while I was still building.
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I do have a drone that records video and takes pictures. It is very fun to mess around with.
This photo was taken with my drone.
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NG =Natural Gas

This site shows what is released by a vent free product.

http://www.abe.iastate.edu/extension-an ... s-aen-204/

What pollutants are released into a room when an unvented heater is used? The main combustion products formed when gas burns are:
• Carbon dioxide (CO2), a non-toxic gas formed during complete combustion of carbon based fuels.
• Carbon monoxide (CO), a toxic gas formed if combustion is incomplete.
• Nitrogen dioxide, a toxic gas.
• Water vapor.

Right now the water has lowest fish water temp has been 58 F so this backup heater should not have to work hard to keep the water around 70 F.

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I'm not sure how wise the non-venting heater is - I can see bad and good. Be very careful and keep it well maintained and adjusted.


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Mine is based off a setup that was posted on another forum. There are a few people that have this setup running in their greenhouses, one is very close to me. He has been using it for two years now and it keeps his 500 gallon tank 72F all winter. I will not need to run mine near as much as he does. My greenhouse stays close to the temp his does without heat.

He uses a vent free blue flame 20K Btu heater and vent free water heater in his greenhouse.

I will keep an eye on its operation it is a max 38,000 BTU and I will have it turned down low.

He has determined whenever the water needs heat the greenhouse needs heat also so it has worked out very well for him.

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My greenhouse temps are staying fine for my plants but the fish water is to cold. We have had too many cloudy days and a solar fish water heater only works with sun.

I got rained out renting a trencher over the weekend but I still made some progress.

I now have my natural gas line stub out and ready to connect to the underground line I will run.
My tankless water heater is mounted behind the fish tank and is ready to get the water and gas lines.
I hope to connect up the water lines tonight. I would have done it yesterday but I needed one more valve.

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I put three 2X4's up to mount the Hardie board (cement fiber board) to.
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It was interesting mounting in behind the fish tank. I had to be creative.

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I liked this picture showing ice on the greenhouse with plants growing in the greenhouse while 28 F, -2 C degrees outside.

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When people think about natural gas vent free tankless heaters think about peoples natural gas ovens in there house they are vent free. I will be running my water heater about the same amount of BTU’s as natural gas oven.

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As long as you're good with maintenance I don't see any problem Mark. My reservations were mostly because of the high humidity you find in greenhouses. Having said that I've seen more than one person use un-vented heaters to heat the air in greenhouses without issue.


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One step closer. I rented the trencher today. I rented it for four hours and I just made it. I have a couple places I need to clean out the trench where I have to get close to the buildings. I would say that was worth $113 it did take longer than I thought it would. I trenched 130’ the turns were no fun.

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As long as you're good with maintenance I don't see any problem Mark. My reservations were mostly because of the high humidity you find in greenhouses. Having said that I've seen more than one person use un-vented heaters to heat the air in greenhouses without issue.

Yes me :thumbright:
I hope you are not running fish water through the heater

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This will be in a closed loop system.
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I will Tee the current system with 4 valves so I can use the current system where the sun heats the water or the tankless heater can heat the water.

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Just read the 39 pages very inspiring great job

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