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Wow, I have been through Nm a couple times. I thought it was mostly dessert, lol. I guess the water might be warm enough to let them live. Here the water gets down to 40-50F during the winter and kills tilapia. That is why they allow them here. I think some of the larger tilapia (even the legal ones) survive the east texas winter however... It might be that water temps in NM stay warm enough for them to survive..

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It gets much colder here.. the headwaters of the rivers are not too far away and then combine that with 18 degree outside temps.

May I suggest,...............,,,moove.



Plenty of room here in Australia.

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I call a Spade a Spade,,,you can turn it upside down and paint itred but it's still a Spade.

Got residency secured for me

If you've got any qualifications , near any,your needed.
Our infrastructure just cannot support the rapid growth in digging iron-ore and selling it to China,,,,we need help.

Truly,Australia is screaming for Engineers,Nurses etc and we have increased our immigration intake substantially.

immi.gov.au

http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general- ... /index.htm

Do your skills fall into any of thesecatagories? http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/general- ... demand.htm

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I call a Spade a Spade,,,you can turn it upside down and paint itred but it's still a Spade.

Slicer, I'd suggest starting your system with aquarium fish (goldfish are usually easiest). That way you can get your system up and running, and producing veggies while you sort out your fish species issues.

I've found a private source in Southern California who sometimes sells all-male hybrids on EBay. I'm sure she would ship to you. I think she might sell breeders, but starting out with males makes things simpler....

I got mine about 7 weeks back and some are nearing 4". Cute little orange guys with black and red markings. Ran about $32 for 25 3/4" fry that lived (out of 15 bought, 30 shipped). PM me...

LoL i called Americulture when i first started looking i talked to Damon Seawright he said minimum order was one box which was 2000 fish at $395 delivered which is a good deal. But he said he could not sell with out a permit. The permit is $25 http://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/apps_pe ... rtFish.pdf
but i have some problems with the permit first i was told that the info submitted could be used to tax me and second its none of the governments damn business what i do in my own back yard. What happens if we have a national food shortage or disaster, im doing great being sustainable until the government decides it needs to empty my ponds and take my fish leaving me totally screwed? I dont think so. Its as bad as the National Animal Identification System where they want to record rfid and track every animal you own, chickens, goats ect.

Read about that Tax ..... perhaps it's Tax on profit ..... if that is the case agree as you make zero profit you agree to pay zero tax:) Even better ,, ask them if your costs become a tax deduction,, that always makes the Aussie Tax department squirm.

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DesertWolf,
Perhaps shortly after you receive the fish, there will be a "terrible accident" resulting in the "loss" of all your fish. These things do happen, of course.

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Rules are for the obedience of the ignorant and the guidance of the wise.

Sure and maybe some day i will be attacked by an unarmed robber and i will hand over my 9mm so he may shoot me.

There is a diffrence between an accident or something that is out of your control and enabling someone to do harm to you. You must have great trust in our government. I dont. The less they know the better.

You know what i just realized? The state wants me to get a permit to import fish but Americulture the hatchery and the fish are already in the state. So why should i need an import permit?

Not only are you not importing, you are not releasing them into New Mexico waterways. I'd say that is the wrong permit, but in glancing at the other permits available, I suppose it is the most applicable.

Perhaps another conversation with Americulture would be in order?

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I found here that all the permits do not really apply to persons because the tweak all the definitions to something other than reality.

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We think alike i wrote them last night and asked why i needed an import permit when i was in the same state as the hatchery and this is the answer i got back:

Those are just the rules. Game and Fish wants control over the distribution
of all fish in the state. There is no way around working with them.