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 Post subject: Re: Spirulina
PostPosted: Nov 6th, '15, 07:47 
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because $150/ kg is a hell of a lot of money???
or maybe you are rich.... :shrug:


why grow fish or veges? you can buy both cheaper than your running costs.....


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 Post subject: Re: Spirulina
PostPosted: Nov 6th, '15, 09:16 
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because $150/ kg is a hell of a lot of money???
or maybe you are rich.... :shrug: ..why grow fish or veges? you can buy both cheaper than your running costs.....


Yes you are right, and so you make ALL your own fish food, for that same reason, we assume.. and build your own Air-Pumps etc.
EVERYTHING has a COST, and $150 for a Kg of powder is likely cheap, and then again - you could buy the overseas stuff, that is suggested as being non-organic, as I doubt that would make a big difference to fish etc.

and for what it is worth - I quote

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In Australia, you will need get permit and license before you can keep live Spiurlina culture.


That is the response to a question to the main local supplier, as to it they could sell me some culture, so I wonder if you can actually buy culture from the CSIRO..
and then there was the discussion about the cost of it from CSIRO being so high..
It's one thing to seek a price from CSIRO and it's another to get supply..

If CSIRO did supply, then it makes a joke of the rules.. :think:

as someone lately said.. something about "Cost and Economy"

So the first thing would seem to be to get a permit/License..
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PostPosted: Nov 6th, '15, 10:26 
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hmmm Koi are also illegal in victoria.... :rolleyes:

dont think for a second that stops every asian having them. lol


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PostPosted: Nov 6th, '15, 11:23 
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umm because its going to cost less then $7 per kg to grow ...
and how are you paying $150 its like $30 / kg ( tho that's fish grade ) ...

and I already used to grow the stuff a decade ago for raising fry
this time around mostly doing it for human consumption , feeding fish is the bonus


2x separate places (UK,Italy) have now shipped cultures to me :naughty: :whistle: :occasion1:


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PostPosted: Nov 6th, '15, 12:03 
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umm because its going to cost less then $7 per kg to grow ...
and how are you paying $150 its like $30 / kg ( tho that's fish grade ) ...

well, derrrr... I did say food grade
and I do suspect there is a massive difference between food grade and pet grade..

http://www.australianspirulina.com.au/

I think.. the only ORGANIC grower in the world (I may be wrong)

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and I already used to grow the stuff a decade ago for raising fry
this time around mostly doing it for human consumption , feeding fish is the bonus


Then you should be more discrete, about where you live.. :lol:

Fancy leaving it behind, so that it COULD escape if a flood happened..

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hmmm ......dont think for a second that stops every asian having them.


Agreed... BUT - The only supplier (other than CSIRO) will not sell me any without a permit, so the point is - You LIKELY can never import it or buy it..

After all, every other person MAY have KOI, but NO-ONE has admitted having Spirulina.. so it does not fall into the same category as Koi..

It's a rare person who want's to culture Spirulina... I am unsure that I would want to, even if a culture could be found..

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When I do have culture running ( and I should ordered from 5 places around the world )
I will be selling it on ebay.com.au for $25 plus $10 shipping in AU backyardaquaponics users can have it for $20 shipped in AU

So - we KNOW that imports are being blocked, suggesting that the comment about growing it being illegal, is correct.. and you are going to sell on EBAY.. now that is bright.. :oops:

Don't shoot the messenger..! :naughty:

Import it from five suppliers, and one might get through, and I do hope that there is ONLY Spirulina in the culture and no more noxious green stuff, if you plan to also consume it .. and with four being confiscated, they will likely look at who had ordered the illegal stuff..
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PostPosted: Nov 6th, '15, 12:10 
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its unlikely that its "illegal" in the same way as cocaine, i think customs would treat the shipments like most things that are legal to have, but has dubious status - like brugmansia, HBWR seeds, etc - they will stop them and destroy them, but go no further because you may not have been allowed to bring it in,, etc, but its not actualy an illegal substance.


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PostPosted: Nov 6th, '15, 12:37 
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honestly I'm not hiding where my food grade photobioreactor will be placed .. but its going to live on the bottom of my pool

for two reasons
#1 large body of water will have a stable temperature
#2 I needed the body of water to be inhabitable anyhow Chlorine does this best

pool can absorb the sun's heat and allow the light into the culture with out the culture being boiled

I'm already starting some Arduino code for controlling the culture to keep stable temperature co2/nutrient doses and automatic harvesting when target density is reached


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PostPosted: Nov 6th, '15, 13:21 
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honestly I'm not hiding where my food grade photobioreactor will be placed .. but its going to live on the bottom of my pool

I'm already starting some Arduino code for controlling the culture to keep stable temperature co2/nutrient doses and automatic harvesting when target density is reached


http://www.australianspirulina.com.au/

but why would you worrie about so much trouble..

Look at the cover photo in DARWIN, where I would be confident that heat was a significant issue..
I would have thought that heat and intense sunlight, was a basic need..
I would be confident that the light at the bottom of a typical pool, would be somewhat down on the surface insolation..

All pretty cool :laughing3: that you can go to the trouble..

We need to buy a UAV with a bottle dangling under and go to DARWIN for a holiday.. :wave1:

I'm sure they will think it just another blow-fly
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PostPosted: Nov 6th, '15, 13:35 
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sure, buy from them..... if you like your money going back to china...


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you do know Spirulina are dead @ 39 C ... heat is a concern especially when my room temps are 40+
its 9pm and this room is between 41 and 42 think it reached 45 today
yet the water feels nice and cool
memo building a tall house with no tree's in site = bad idea

manufacture plants only heat their product to 50 deg to deactivate the cultures

and it's not really a problem or concern for me ,
can anyone actually point to a place that lists all illegal things in AU ?
the pool will pay for itself now , can not wait to have heated pool in winter :P

anyhow I will discreetly ship just Pm me , obviously some feel it's risky and want anonymity
and probably would be best if anyone wanting just Pm and not post here for your safety
( feel free to put on your tinfoil hats )

I have built up a couple of nutrient grow packs for spirulina now
ranging from basic containing only 5 ingredients ( fish food )
to over 30 and counting ( human consumption )
I am building up my own personal use one tablespoon a day formula for my own personal use

anyhow enough with the bickering , my next reply will be to notify when I am starting the culture followed by another reply when I have enough stock for shipping plus final prices of culture nutrients


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PostPosted: Nov 6th, '15, 20:08 
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MasterCATZ wrote:
you do know Spirulina are dead @ 39 C ... heat is a concern especially when my room temps are 40+
its 9pm and this room is between 41 and 42 think it reached 45 today


I hear your words.. and appreciate the thoughts, but I know the Darwin product, and have used it personally for years.
And I see those photos of their production and wonder why it is so completely opposite to what you say... :oops:
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When this tread started I went out and got live spriulina from a health food store it was a liquid on the fridge. The pet shop has alive culture going that they use to feed Koi. Hope this helps.


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PostPosted: Nov 7th, '15, 06:46 
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MasterCATZ wrote:
you do know Spirulina are dead @ 39 C ... heat is a concern especially when my room temps are 40+
its 9pm and this room is between 41 and 42 think it reached 45 today


I hear your words.. and appreciate the thoughts, but I know the Darwin product, and have used it personally for years.
And I see those photos of their production and wonder why it is so completely opposite to what you say... :oops:
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how do you mean its the opposite?

they have large ponds, you do know that lare bodies of water in the tropics dont get higher than about 30c and generally dont drop much from that yea?


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PostPosted: Nov 8th, '15, 12:52 
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I have spirulina growing. We got our culture from amazon.com. We grow it in a fish tank in the kitchen and harvest some for our own use, and our chickens, fresh each day. We are about to start an aquaponics system. We'll feed it to the fish then as well.

I don't know how to PM but if you are interested in some just get in touch. Certainly won't cost as much as CSIRO or the hideous exchange rates if buying from overseas.


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PostPosted: Nov 8th, '15, 13:01 
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I have spirulina growing in my kitchen if anyone is interested. Just send a private message.

I bought it from Algae Research Supplies on Amazon. Exchange rate is a killer!!


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