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 Post subject: I learnt a lot today
PostPosted: May 20th, '12, 14:43 
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I visited daylsford market and noticed a board with flyer's for
Alfcons Aquaponics
According to the paper he is one of the founding board members of
The Aquaponics Association of australia He trained under 3 leading experts in Western australia Victoria and Queensland [who]
he is provding courses at ballarat tafe and on site at a ;;ballarat location ;;
Is there an Aquaponics association

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 Post subject: Re: I learnt a lot today
PostPosted: May 20th, '12, 15:22 
If you check out his Facebook photos... (joined March this year)... and other photos on his website...

You can see the standard of his work... and knowledge..... :wink:

Hardly even got a system of any note himself... and is "teaching others"....

Sad... really sad...
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I was about to teach yall how to crash his site but thats a little mean lol had a few bourbons :D

I also wanted to add alfcon if your reading this you need to do a lot more research otherwise as in the aquaponics arena you will get ripped to sheds because a lot of us take pride in what we have spent a lot of time learning.


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I was about to teach yall how to crash his site but thats a little mean lol had a few bourbons :D

Please double please

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I know that Nitrate can get to levels which are toxic to fish, but would have thought that Nitrite would have got them first which is why this made me laugh to myself:

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One of the biggest issues I faced with this new hobby was managing the toxic nitrate levels. Nitrates would build up and the only solution was a water change.


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doesn't know Nitrate from Nitrite....
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Food&Fish wrote:
Wildfire wrote:
I was about to teach yall how to crash his site but thats a little mean lol had a few bourbons :D

Please double please



ok on a doubled intake

but if you want instructions pm is required lol
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In a fish tank it is the nitrates that cause the issues, not nitrites. The filter bacteria removes them. Same as grow beds do in AP. But the nitrates have to be reduced with water changes. He is correct there.

I worry about his raft system, 39 plants, 600 litres, 42 Silver Perch and no other apparent filtration.
Wonder how many SP are still alive...
http://www.alfconsaquaponics.com.au/flo ... system.htm
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I still think nitrite levels would be elevated in an aquarium without water changes - at least this is what I experienced when I had an indoor tank.

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I think his systems... particular his "demo" system... and his suggested "kitchen" build... will always have nitrite and nitrate problems....

And require constant water changes....as they're setup... right along with gravel substrates in the tank...as aquarium systems....

But I'm sure he's comfortable with that concept...as that is by his own admission... the sum total of his experience...
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werdna wrote:
I worry about his raft system, 39 plants, 600 litres, 42 Silver Perch and no other apparent filtration.
Wonder how many SP are still alive...
http://www.alfconsaquaponics.com.au/flo ... system.htm

Yep... looks like a straight flow through system... no filtration... and no extra oxygenation...

Don't know how big then Silver Perch are... or how much he's feeding them.... presumably they're small, and he's not feeding them much at all at the moment...

And that's probably the only reason they're still alive... and the plants don't have root rot yet...
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Food&Fish wrote:
I visited daylsford market and noticed a board with flyer's for
Alfcons Aquaponics
According to the paper he is one of the founding board members of
The Aquaponics Association of australia He trained under 3 leading experts in Western australia Victoria and Queensland [who]
he is provding courses at ballarat tafe and on site at a ;;ballarat location ;;
Is there an Aquaponics association

Hey mate I told you so. That created some interest, if had of known i would have gone to the buninyong farmers market down the road yesterday.
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That sample bottle you gave me bigger next time its all gone

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I think you guys are being too harsh. He was voted as a founding member of the 'AAoA' :P

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I think you guys are being too harsh. He was voted as a founding member of the 'AAoA' :P


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