All times are UTC + 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 1262 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 85  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: JT's GH AP System Thread
PostPosted: Apr 11th, '09, 07:23 
Offline
In need of a life
In need of a life
User avatar

Joined: Dec 9th, '08, 03:23
Posts: 1514
Location: Wilmington, North Carolina
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: USA, Wilmington, NC
Hey all............

Well its that time of the year for all of us on this side of the world and its just about time
for me to start my Greenhouse system.... if you have read my other thread, you can see
that I've already started pre-fabing the FT, ST, and Main GB.

over the last couple weeks, I have been transplanting my GH plants out into my 24' x 45' (7.3m x 13.7m) dirt garden and also in my 16' x 20' (4.9m x 6.09m) raised garden. Im down
to the last few to be put outside, so I decided to bunch up the rest and open up the FT area so I can start getting it ready to build.

got a question, my FT with water will weight in at around 5500 Lbs. (2494.8 kg) and the ground im putting it on is a mixture of sand and topsoil which stays wet for quite some time after a good rain. What is the best way to make a good solid base for this big FT?

I was thinking about using crush and run, not sure what its called in Au. but its a mixture of
large and small stones and when compacted it allows water to seep thru it...

I was also thinking it might be a good idea to put a cement slab down and put the FT on that....

any ideas?

thanks JT

_________________
Decals by JT - New Website
http://decals-by-jt.wix.com/jt-sign-services

My GH AP System
http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5259&start=0


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
    Advertisement
 
PostPosted: Apr 11th, '09, 07:42 
Offline
In need of a life
In need of a life
User avatar

Joined: Dec 9th, '08, 03:23
Posts: 1514
Location: Wilmington, North Carolina
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: USA, Wilmington, NC
Here is the sketchup view of my planned system

jT


Attachments:
File comment: sketchup view - components are designed to fit my existing GH
JT AP system 04-10-09  double fill pipe.jpg
JT AP system 04-10-09 double fill pipe.jpg [ 235.44 KiB | Viewed 25635 times ]

_________________
Decals by JT - New Website
http://decals-by-jt.wix.com/jt-sign-services

My GH AP System
http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5259&start=0
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Apr 11th, '09, 13:53 
Offline
Xtreme Contributor
Xtreme Contributor
User avatar

Joined: Aug 26th, '08, 14:44
Posts: 131
Gender: Male
Location: Broken Hill
What about you use some old bricks as a base for you FT lay them as paving cheap and easy to do 8)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Apr 11th, '09, 20:31 
Offline
In need of a life
In need of a life
User avatar

Joined: Dec 9th, '08, 03:23
Posts: 1514
Location: Wilmington, North Carolina
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: USA, Wilmington, NC
thanks

thats a possibility, I have some bricks just outside the back door of the GH, but when the ground gets really wet, they seem to settle alot.... but maybe with a bed 3' x 9' (.9m x 2.74m) it might be stable enough...

_________________
Decals by JT - New Website
http://decals-by-jt.wix.com/jt-sign-services

My GH AP System
http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5259&start=0


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Apr 11th, '09, 21:17 
Offline
In need of a life
In need of a life
User avatar

Joined: Dec 9th, '08, 03:23
Posts: 1514
Location: Wilmington, North Carolina
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: USA, Wilmington, NC
Here are some beginning pics of the GH and location for the FT


Attachments:
File comment: Looking west across GH... my system will fit this space
GH 1 Start of system.jpg
GH 1 Start of system.jpg [ 275.64 KiB | Viewed 25550 times ]
File comment: Looking east to main GH entrance
GH AP 2 start.jpg
GH AP 2 start.jpg [ 274.99 KiB | Viewed 25477 times ]
File comment: Looking out the back door to my dirt garden
GH AP 3 start.jpg
GH AP 3 start.jpg [ 272.97 KiB | Viewed 25413 times ]

_________________
Decals by JT - New Website
http://decals-by-jt.wix.com/jt-sign-services

My GH AP System
http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5259&start=0
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Apr 11th, '09, 21:22 
Offline
In need of a life
In need of a life
User avatar

Joined: Dec 9th, '08, 03:23
Posts: 1514
Location: Wilmington, North Carolina
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: USA, Wilmington, NC
the FT will go across the complete west wall, I will leave the door incase I need to access the FT from that side....

third pic is showing the mulch being removed, its 4" (101mm) deep and wet, so will take
alot of shoveling

second pic is old plant tables which will be broken down and recycled

first pic is location of current old tables


Attachments:
GH AP 4 start.jpg
GH AP 4 start.jpg [ 235.72 KiB | Viewed 25344 times ]
GH AP Start 5.jpg
GH AP Start 5.jpg [ 220.49 KiB | Viewed 25304 times ]
GH AP start 7.jpg
GH AP start 7.jpg [ 311.58 KiB | Viewed 25213 times ]

_________________
Decals by JT - New Website
http://decals-by-jt.wix.com/jt-sign-services

My GH AP System
http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5259&start=0
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Apr 11th, '09, 23:34 
Offline
Almost divorced
Almost divorced
User avatar

Joined: Apr 20th, '08, 12:07
Posts: 1408
Location: Baton Rouge Louisiana. USA
Gender: Male
Are you human?: Take me to ya leader
Location: USA, Louisiana, Baton Rouge, Gonzales.
JT, it is situated perfect facing south and with an exhaust fan to cool it. In my little 10 x 12 green house I used the large pea gravel that is often used in driveways cost about $200. for a truck load and layered it about 4-6" deep where if I spilled anything it would go down thru and drain into the soil and like you the rains would come in sometimes and wet it but it was always dry on top which kept the mold/fungus down. Now the damned fire ants would move in so I had to constantly battle them, and the little miners would carry the dirt up to the top but they would do that on pavers and even a slab with a crack in it. Now you could save a little green by using the small gravel and it could fill the growbeds and make your floor and a little landscaping. Just a thought.

_________________
There is room for all God's creatures,
Right next to the mashed potatos
The purpose of government is to provide service,
The purpose of the media is to provide vasoline.

http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6945


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Apr 12th, '09, 00:14 
Offline
In need of a life
In need of a life
User avatar

Joined: Dec 9th, '08, 03:23
Posts: 1514
Location: Wilmington, North Carolina
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: USA, Wilmington, NC
Hey

I thought about the gravel..... it would be much better then the mulch.... I was in a hurry last year to get the GH up and running....

im just trying to get a good solution for the FT so it wont settle to much....

I will be taking off the plastic above the FT and GBs and next fall I will build panels
with new plastic that I can just screw on.. then come spring, I just have to take off the panels....

jT

_________________
Decals by JT - New Website
http://decals-by-jt.wix.com/jt-sign-services

My GH AP System
http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5259&start=0


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Apr 12th, '09, 00:22 
Offline
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: May 27th, '06, 04:57
Posts: 6480
Images: 0
Gender: Male
Are you human?: I'm a pleasure droid
Location: Frederick, Maryland
It's going to a sweet setup JT, maybe sink some 4x4s down into some post holes and attach the FT frame to them?

_________________
DD's Landing Page

Plant and fish pictures are money


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Apr 12th, '09, 00:22 
Offline
Bordering on Legend
Bordering on Legend
User avatar

Joined: Sep 19th, '08, 20:12
Posts: 327
Gender: Male
Location: PERTH 6066
g'day mate, my FT will hold twice the volume of yours, but mine has to have a concrete pad, maybe you could put down some cement in powder form and mix it all up, to adepth of 8" or so and compact it down... ?? or build the area up, so the moisture drains away from the FT... try some 8"x 4" beams to give it a bigger foot print on the ground and spread the load?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Apr 12th, '09, 00:25 
Offline
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: May 27th, '06, 04:57
Posts: 6480
Images: 0
Gender: Male
Are you human?: I'm a pleasure droid
Location: Frederick, Maryland
For our deck I used those cardboard cylinder forms with cement in them, not sure if you want to go to all that trouble...

_________________
DD's Landing Page

Plant and fish pictures are money


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Apr 12th, '09, 08:57 
Offline
In need of a life
In need of a life
User avatar

Joined: Dec 9th, '08, 03:23
Posts: 1514
Location: Wilmington, North Carolina
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: USA, Wilmington, NC
Thanks for all the suggestions.....

Im looking at using the crush and run and maybe adding some cement to it to firm it up...

started digging out for the FT...

will be tamping the area down....

will probably take me a couple months to get it all set up......

a couple more weeks and will move ALL the plants out.... working on the back
porch to make that the new plant storage over next winter..

jT


Attachments:
File comment: slow progress, but getting there... supposed to rain mon. tue and wed will see how it goes
GH AP FT 1.jpg
GH AP FT 1.jpg [ 248.06 KiB | Viewed 25013 times ]
File comment: messy work, but someone has to do it...
GH AP FT 2.jpg
GH AP FT 2.jpg [ 203.78 KiB | Viewed 24986 times ]
File comment: have board level and starting to level it out
GH AP FT 3.jpg
GH AP FT 3.jpg [ 259.66 KiB | Viewed 24977 times ]

_________________
Decals by JT - New Website
http://decals-by-jt.wix.com/jt-sign-services

My GH AP System
http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5259&start=0
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Apr 12th, '09, 09:18 
Offline
Almost divorced
Almost divorced
User avatar

Joined: Apr 20th, '08, 12:07
Posts: 1408
Location: Baton Rouge Louisiana. USA
Gender: Male
Are you human?: Take me to ya leader
Location: USA, Louisiana, Baton Rouge, Gonzales.
JT, if the fish tank is lined with no bottom, just use the dirt like an above ground pool, contour the bottom and bevel the edges. It will settle but not to the point that it will rip. May not need to over engineer it. You can get the foam bevels from a pool supply cheap.

_________________
There is room for all God's creatures,
Right next to the mashed potatos
The purpose of government is to provide service,
The purpose of the media is to provide vasoline.

http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6945


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Apr 12th, '09, 17:21 
Offline
Xtreme Contributor
Xtreme Contributor
User avatar

Joined: Aug 26th, '08, 14:44
Posts: 131
Gender: Male
Location: Broken Hill
Can you get timber slabs there we often use old rail sleepers to support heavy stuff even shipping containers as they distibute the weight over the entire surface area?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Apr 18th, '09, 08:34 
Offline
In need of a life
In need of a life
User avatar

Joined: Dec 9th, '08, 03:23
Posts: 1514
Location: Wilmington, North Carolina
Gender: Male
Are you human?: yes
Location: USA, Wilmington, NC
thanks for all the input..... a combination of them is what Im doing...

I am putting in the crush and run to build up the bottom of the FT because it does
get wet when it rains alot.... this will also raise the FT for my CHIFT PIST system...

I will be using 4 x 4 base and double 1/2" plywood bottom.....

more progress pics below..

jT


Attachments:
File comment: starting the CnR, all wood is treated....
AP Pics 3 Crush n run going in.jpg
AP Pics 3 Crush n run going in.jpg [ 266.8 KiB | Viewed 24856 times ]
File comment: tamping the Crush n Run to compact it almost as hard as concrete
AP Pics 3 crush n run being packed.jpg
AP Pics 3 crush n run being packed.jpg [ 264.65 KiB | Viewed 24857 times ]
File comment: All the Crush n Run is installed and packed...
AP Pics 3 crush n run finished.jpg
AP Pics 3 crush n run finished.jpg [ 258.21 KiB | Viewed 24812 times ]

_________________
Decals by JT - New Website
http://decals-by-jt.wix.com/jt-sign-services

My GH AP System
http://www.backyardaquaponics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=5259&start=0
Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 1262 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 85  Next

All times are UTC + 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Yahoo [Bot] and 11 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Portal by phpBB3 Portal © phpBB Türkiye
[ Time : 0.172s | 22 Queries | GZIP : Off ]