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 Post subject: Re: DD's System 2011
PostPosted: May 2nd, '11, 01:12 
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Looks like I'm due for a salad LOL, have to plant the onions in several of the planters, and the potato plant has started growing!


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 Post subject: Re: DD's System 2011
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AP Insomnia, Memorial Day edition!

Hoping to get some AP expansions underway, going to get materials to build a three rail horse fence-based gutter setup. Thinking of the best ways to support the posts, may dig them in. The 180 gallon tub full of gravel needs to be moved and maybe retired for the Summer. Will use all the Scotch Brite pads I have to compensate some, by putting them around the drain pipe in the sump in a radial pattern, held together with nylon zip ties.

The four catfish I got have all died over the last weeks, and from what I can tell I have two bluegill and maybe 20 minnows left. I was worried about the koi but they are still in there. The water went clear last week, so I think maybe the water is better now to support more fish. Maybe the bacteria were not established yet, the water was still very green before. Anyway I plan to get another load of bluegill sometime soon, but no catfish.

Visited TC in Florida during our family vacation, will post a picture to prove it maybe tomorrow!

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PostPosted: May 30th, '11, 22:23 
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In spring it isn't uncommon to get a big algae bloom as the water warms and the biofilter is still working to re-establish.

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As promised, a picture of me and TC at the Florida homestead/outdoor laboratory. She really does have pretty much one of everything, lots of examples of different AP tech going on. I really enjoyed the ducks, they are so fun to watch! The weather there is something else, like what we have to deal with in July, but it's hot there already in May. Thanks for the tour!


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Here is a flower that my son brought home from school in a milk carton. It was in the indoor aquarium system for the week that we were gone. The pump hose trickled into this planter all week, draining through holes at the bottom of the planter. Seems to like AP!


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Got some outdoor work going at the end of my vacation, although it was very hot and miserable early this week.

I filled the medium-sized planters for the outdoor Rendezvous setup with charcoal about halfway up from the bottom, then filled the rest of the way with cocoa shell mulch. We'll see if the mulch works OK. I planted green beans and carrots in these.

I also finally made a wicking planter, out of a laundry tub. It has the potato plant from the indoor AP system planted in it.


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Emptied the 180 gallon gravel tub, to make way for the "saddlebag rail" AP horse fence.

My system is now gravel free!

It is so lightly stocked right now that this should be fine. In order to offset the loss of gravel media I made neat little filters on the drain pipes out of two boxes of Scotch Brite pads from Sam's Club and nylon zip ties. The pipes return water to the bottom of the tub, and the bubbles that come up circulate water over the pads.


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Dug down only about 6" before I hit a rock for the post holes. I placed the posts in the ground and piled dirt up to stabilize them, and made a brace to keep the fence from tipping over in the wind. The rails have an intentional slope from left to right.

Ordered 100 3" net pots over the internet, for the top two rails. The bottom is a "super rail", the center channel will hold seven 10" square net backets for climbing plants. On either side I will put 5" or 6" net pots in rows too for things like bush beans and pepper plants. I hope to get further along during this weekend, to drill holes for the pots, put in the liner, and make a flow distribution bucket maybe to route the water.

I could add wings to this fence at each post, it would be easy to just put on either plywood strips as rails, 1"x8"s like I'm using so far, or the cedar planks that are on the top two rails.


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Hum, eager to see how the build comes out.

Your willingness to test out new ideas and document the process is a service to all. :notworthy:

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So it's a mutual admiration society then? :D

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OK so I was able to cut up the plywood and put some holes in the other board for the net pots. The bottom is almost lined, have to make some adjustments, the troughs are deeper than they need to be and the extra water weight will become an issue.

Started with using screws with a little segment of silicone air line on them, to hang the liner on, so that it could be easily removed to get to the roots, but tearing was looking to become a problem so instead I'm just screwing them all the way down to hold the liner. Depending on the trough weight this may hold; if the liner starts to tear I could clamp it under a piece of flange or something to avoid it.

The bottom "bed" will have 6 10" square pots and 24 5" round pots. I'm going to change the middle rail to have 5" pots, and the top rail will have around 100 3" pots, because making four rows of holes will not increase the shade too much. The plan after that is to mount a bucket at the top of the left post with fittings evenly spaced to feed the troughs with water. The drains will join up on the right side and back into the pond. A screen can be mounted like an arch from the bottom rail over to the garage wall to support the vines I think, would be nice to use the plants to shade the pond.

This fence is a bit different than the burrito, to reduce the amount of charcoal I need to use. Being able to remove and swap the net pots will be good.

Next steps are to finish lining the rails, then plumbing, and to get more fish!


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I'm lost
it looks like the liner is just attached to the outside of the plywood and the plywood is just floating, what's holding the plywood up?

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Hi TC, the plywood is held up by the two rails, you can see them in the earlier picture. The cross section looks like a 'T'. On either side of the rail you have a pond liner gutter for water channels.

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Went to get water to water the deck flowers tonight, and there are dozens of teeny little baby fish in the sump! I suspect they are minnows!

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Ok so you wrapped the rails in liner as well, that explains why I couldn't see them in the later picture.

At least minnows will keep the mozies down :headbang:

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